I have haxxored into the Japan Times’ system (why else do you think it is down right now?) and obtained the secrets on how they generate stories:
Code based on the Daily Mail-o-matic.
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I have haxxored into the Japan Times’ system (why else do you think it is down right now?) and obtained the secrets on how they generate stories:
Code based on the Daily Mail-o-matic.
guilty of being white
Could homogeneous Japan infect Korea with Ebola?
“Is havill.jp upstaging debito.org?”
On that note:
FYI, a little birdie told me about last evening after work.
Looks like they were having some trouble communicating, so I reached out and just fixed it.
All of them now make it clear that it’s about Japanese language Only.
The issue has been fixed as of right now. Bottom line: these places didn’t want to discriminate against race/ethnicity. They just simply can’t handle languages other than Japanese (because like, they’re Japanese. In Japan) and didn’t know the proper way to express that.
@havill
How the hell did you do that without visiting all locations, flashing around a Japanese passport, the general harassment thing, etc, etc, etc?
And no pictures you taking down signs for “THE ROGUES’ GALLERY”? Yeah right, I call BS.
@havill:
Oops, I forgot to escape “<” and “>” to “<” and “>” in the above comment. URL is <http://www.debito.org/?p=12590>.
@irezumi_aniki:
1. One polite mass mail written in Japanese to the 30 sites (20 mins)
2. one handout/help/cheat-sheet pamphlet that I made and recycled from the tempura-shop “incident” (0 mins)
3. Another polite mail to the travel site followed by three or four followup mails answering questions (5 + 2,2,1 mins)
4. Two phone calls (about 5~10 minutes each)
From noticing the problem to fixing, less than 20 hours (and I’m counting the hours everybody was asleep and did nothing).
@havill:
Pictures or it didn’t happen
@irezumi_aniki: White hot keyboard rage followed by a one man boycott or it didn’t happen
@KT88 (unfaithful):
Pictures or that. Either will do.
@irezumi_aniki:
Here ya go:
http://i.imgur.com/dNG7d2a.jpg
@havill:
I look forward to aDruDro Drbito congratulating you on a fine piece of activism. I expect him to ask if he could publish the pamphlet on his site as an aid to other people hoping to change offensive signage and notices, as well as a few email templates.
After all, what *possible* reason could stop him from spreading good activist practice?
@havill:
That works I suppose. heh
@VK:
Oh I’m sure they’ll say that they did all the work.
(“Work smarter, not harder” is my retort) FYI, I and a helper did have to do some “damage control” to regain their trust.
(“… Also, don’t worry, we’re nothing like the last people you dealt with and are completely un-associated with their work.” paraphrased/translated to 「…また、上記、人権活動家のように、大げさに、他人様の揚げ足を取り、世間で恥をかかせるようなやり方には大反対です。」)
Why would I want to encourage others’ poor “activism” practice by giving them tools they’d probably misuse? Like helping a bull in a china shop by sharpening its horns.
In other comments, sometimes you have to compliment when things are done properly: Good for Dr. Arudou to occasionally call out the racist paranoia of the loony bin that patronizes his site:
http://www.debito.org/?p=12772#comment-723968
TL;DR paraphrase* of debito.org commenter:
* if he can imagine what Japanese people are saying, then I too can imagine what debito.org commenters are typing.
@havill:
being held up in moderation – what is this debito.org?
That Korean vs Japanese bees/hornets shit… you know, Debito could just delete his entire site and replace it with those few comments. My TL;DR…
I don’t understand Japanese. Japanese are racists. I hear them racism all the time. They do that because they are Japanese and Japanese are racists.
It’s an easy enough equation to apply to anything.
Why just yesterday, I saw on the news that a Chrysanthemum prince came back from Kaigai to glorious Nippon with a deadly virus contracted while in ANOTHER COUNTRY. Luckily, we Japanese have successfully quarantined him and prevented that dastardly foreign virus from infecting our precious Yamato blood.
Fucking racist Japanese.
@havill, can you post a link to your pamphlet on dropbox/google drive? I’d love to peek at it as a point of curiosity. Thanks!
@Dedicated Whale Researcher:
I think I know who you are. I’ll send you a direct link.
Indeed, and thanks!
FYI, Victor of the YouTube channel
https://www.youtube.com/user/Gimmeabreakman
has asked me to interview me about this; I foolishly agreed. Looks like we’ll be recording next week Monday night, and who knows when he’ll publish it.
And the Debitards go mental, accusing Havill of nudge nudge wink wink complicity in the ongoing quest to deny all gaijins access to shelter, clean drinking water, and Asian poontang.
THERE MUST BE RACISM IN JAPAN, THERE MUSSSSSSST BE! OTHERWISE WHY DO I FEEL SOOOO NERVOUS WHEN THEY ARE LOOKING AAAAAAAT MEEEE?
IF IT’S NO REAL WHY DO I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE AROUND WHITE PEOPLE THAAAAAAN THEM?
CALL THEM ON THE PHONE AND REBUKE THEM IN PAAAAAAFACT JAPANESE NOW!!!!
FYI, I booked an overnight stay at an hotel/onsen in Beppu from one of the so-called Japanese Only places for me and my family this weekend. Was hard to find a place that didn’t say the were booked: but that’s probably because I’m making a reservation last minute for a three day weekend (Culture Day!). I’ll take pics and post on my SNSes next week.
First time to Beppu, so I’m looking forward to it!
The super sleuths over at Debito-land are foaming at the mouth. They’re out to get ya, Mr Fake non-native Japanese…
Meanwhile, I wonder how many of these people actually ever intended to visit/stay at any of the hotels on the list.
Whatevs, disconnected white hot keyboard rage conspiracy theories for the win…
From the turd pile:
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I don’t think it matters if the apologist Havill has been giving Japanese firms tips on how to get away with racism for free, the news is still out there;
Amazon.com challenger wannabe Rakuten supports racist practices.
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…huh. So Rakuten spotted the discriminatory policies on the random corners of one toe of their business, corrected them crazy-fast… and that proves that they support racist practices?
Is this like the TV show survivor? Can’t we just “vote people off the island”?
Technically most of them have already voted themselves off the island but they just can’t let go.
It’s more like Lost.
At what point does aDruDrou wake up from this nightmare?
All his followers can do is cast aspersions about Eido’s nationality and condemn him for getting a whole bunch of Japanese Only notices taken down, comforting themselves only with the idea that true Japanese do and will not accept foreigners.
What exactly is the difference between debito.org and a bunch of uyoku racists?
@VK: he, he – u dum!…
“What exactly is the difference between debito.org and a bunch of uyoku racists? ”
Answer is easy – “we” are gaijin. Cos it’s all us vs them. Japanese r scum, we r00l! So we can’t be uyoku.
L00ser!
@KT88 (true as the day is getting shorter):
B-b-but they’re even going about where he works and everything…
Has the doctor ever met any of his buddies away from the internet? JDG/Fightback seems to be the only one still living in Japan, surely when the doc graced Tokyo with his presence recently to pick up his certificate that will surely lead to untold riches he must have invited Jim out for a beer. I wonder what his excuse was…
He had a meetup party at the Hobgoblin. They do all that shit on Facebook.
Yo Havill! Just wanted to congratulate you for your work for us non-Japanese. By my rough count, you removed more Japanese Only signs than Debito did over the years of his flailing “angry activism.” You broke his years long recond in two days! Keep it up. You get results!
@Onsen Fan: I look forward to Eido writing up his experiences in order to obtain a PhD in Japologism.
Two quotes from the current thread over there:
Only “new” Dog posters, I would argue. Then, another poster, after talking about how Eido reminds him/her of AEI or CCS people, stated:
Valid points, I suppose, especially with respect to Donald Keene’s “stalker” who recently posted this in a thread talking behind Prof Keene’s back to a new poster:
– Again, because Keene is supposed to be A WORLD-CLASS SCHOLAR, who should be able to research beyond mere media hype!
And remember the point being reiterated: Keene’s express reasons for naturalizing do not match his actions. Further, not only did he bash those NJ who allegedly left (they didn’t), he bashed NJ who stayed — as criminals (they aren’t)! All this meanness just to show himself in a positive light.
Paul, I think you’re just being obtuse at this point. Bye.
I noticed that Mister Mtzplk and Sweetandloveable are shown in red characters now. Does this mean that they have left Wikipedia?
@Ken Y-N: what I enjoy about the whole thing, Ken, is that Debito seems to think that showing net migration numbers somehow “demonstrates” or proves his point that there was no Flyjin phenomena. Now, personally, I think he’s probably right here. I think that the majority of people who “fled” the radiation did so on a short term/temporary basis and didn’t inconvenience their employers significantly (most offices were shut down for several days).
He tries to do this by showing gross migration numbers. The problem with those numbers is, what will employers do? They’ll quickly replace the foreign employees with new foreign employees (it’s not like most are highly skilled or difficult to replace). So what he should be looking at is whether there was a jump in visas issued. As I said, I’d guess the number will be lost in the statistical noise, probably no more than a thousand had the way and means to actually flee permanently (or use it as an excuse to flee permanently which I suspect is the root of this whole line of the lets try to attack Keene thread).
But I always love when he busts on Keene (someone who studies Japanese literature) for being a bad “researcher” when making such a rookie mistake himself.
Ha ha! This is what happens when an immigrant, that just by chance Dr Debito “I’m a human rights activist” Arudou doesn’t like, gets Japanese Only noticed taken down:
– not content with refusing to acknowledge, let alone thank Eido for doing what he did
– not content with letting through his heavy moderation attacks on Eido calling him racist (no, me neither) and challenging whether or not he, as an immigrant is really “Japanese” (no blocking for that. Instead you have to incredibly politely and carefully object to Debito Arudou’s attacks on a 92-year-old immigrant to get banned from his site, apparently)
…Debito Arudou is now publishing arguments why Japanese Only signs should not be taken down and instead stay up forever.
Presumably he’ll now be calling for the employee who changed the offensive notice to be fired for racism.
Anonymous wrote:
I’ve said this indirectly in in both the “Why I turned on Debito.org” comment as well as my comment in the JT’s “Trolls or Media Watchdogs? …” article.
Assuming good faith in Japanese? Damn straight.
IMO, this attitude — that people are inherently good — is the healthy one. It’s why those who think this way succeed when people who don’t fail.
Thanks for the compliment, Anonymous.
So, are they just not aware that their argument is, “All innkeepers and skopkeepers in Japan have to speak English to us foreigners!”
I don’t even think GHQ demanded that in 1946.
But I thought if the Japanese shopkeepers try to speak English to them, that’s racist and they should get fired!
I wish the SJW could make up their minds. So confusing. What do they want?
@Lefthand_sockpuppet:
1. make everyone as miserable as they are
2. get famous by complaining
3. make money by complaining
The worst thing you can do to a SJW is solve the problem they want to complain about.
No matter. They just find new problems. And the target is almost always the people who solved the problem
@havill:
B-b-but Inoue-san, how can you assume good faith with these people after what they did at Pearl Harbor?
As I’ve said before both in the Japan Times comments and in what was originally a tepido.org comment in reply to a debito.org commenter, debito.org is not really about making life for immigrants in Japan better (maybe it was a long time ago, but not anymore). Its commenters are more concerned with Seeing Japan Pay / Be Punished / Suffer / Be Subservient to Them / Be Shamed first and above everything else.
Anonymous makes this true motive clear. And Dr. ARUDOU individualy approves comments discriminitely — there’s ample amount of examples of him moderating / deleting / censoring opinions he does not agree with. Thus nobody believes his copping out by claiming “oh, I don’t necessarily agree with the comments I approve” after it turns out he let something through was wrong.
P.S. to Anonymous and Debito.org:
Here’s a free privacy tip to all my secret admirers clicking on dox links in Debito.org article comments:
LinkedIn has a feature (enhanced for premium members like me) that tells you who has viewed your profile and where they came from (if they have a LinkedIn account). I even get an alert pushed to my phone.
I found the list of people who viewed my profile since that comment to be very enlightening: not at all like the usual tech people and recruiters who usually view it. A few high school ALTs, eikaiwa teachers, ex J-uni EFL folk, and a LOT of people who left Japan long ago. (Not too many who have “lived in Japan 20 years”)
Enlightening.
Just a friendly FYI.
@havill: OMG Eido you stalker!
Not at all surprised by the number of English teachers. Depressed, but not surprised.
There is a subculture of my profession who go through their entire lives here never encountering any kind of “Japanese Only” signs or disbarment, but the moment one is discovered anywhere on these Islands, they’re all on facebook about how they’re going to teach their students about the “real” Japan on Monday morning. It’s your bog standard colonialist crap of holding the entire ethnic group responsible for the actions of any one individual.
I hate missionaries.
But you love the missionary position with your socks and sandals still on, eh grandad?
@havill: The problem is Eido assumes good faith on the part of proven perpetrators.
Since humanity agrees that “No Foreigners Allowed” and “Japanese People Only” signs are illegal (not just immoral, but patently illegal) Eido is NOT assuming “good faith” about a random human he meets: Eido is assuming “good faith” about someone that all of humanity agrees is committing a crime.
“Hello criminal, there are some people outside your door who want your arrested for your crime…
(in this case, the crime of owning a hotel which posted a sign stating a company policy of “No Foreigners Allowed” and “Japanese People Only”)
… so I’m going to help you avoid prosecution, here’s how to hide the evidence.”
Now, the reasons WHY Eido looks at an obvious illegal act and tries to avoid the criminal being prosecuted, are as follows:
Eido assumes the criminal had a rational reason for having committed the crime.
Eido assumes the criminal probably meant to write something legal, like “We only speak Japanese here.”
The problem is Eido assumes good faith on the part of proven perpetrators of crimes.
And, as mentioned, Eido then helps those criminals avoid prosecution.
Eido has helped many people avoid prosecution for actions which everybody reading this knows is a crime.
Eido himself admits that such signs ARE ILLEGAL, but he claims that THESE illegal signs should not be prosecuted.
Eido states that as long as the criminal promises to stop doing that crime, that no prosecution for the past illegal action should happen.
Question for Eido: “In addition to those illegal signs, what OTHER illegal acts do you think perpetrators should NOT be prosecuted for?”
Was is the dividing line for you, between “we SHOULD prosecute this admitted perpetrator of an illegal action” and “we should NOT prosecute this admitted perpetrator of an illegal action”?
It seems clear Eido, from your past actions, that you feel “the illegal act of refusing entry based on race or nationality should NOT be prosected, as long as they respect my kind request to please stop doing that illegal act from now on.”
So again, Eido, here’s the question I’m hoping you’ll answer honestly, and politely:
“In addition to those illegal signs, what OTHER illegal acts do you think perpetrators should NOT be prosecuted for?”
I’ll boldly give my answer first Eido: I think ALL illegal acts should be prosecuted, all across humanity, regardless of whether the perpetrator of the illegal act happened to be nice or old or cooperative.
(The only qualifier to the above is that currently some laws exist which claim some actions are illegal even when there is no victim, so in those cases (like personal Cannabis use) humanity SHOULD vote on and change to legal, since there is no victim and thus there is no perpetrator. But even in these situations, UNTIL humanity changes those irrational “victim-less crime” laws, the fact remains that cannabis smokers are breaking the current laws, so they must be prosecuted to allow the judges and juries to pass judgement on whether to let them go free or not, because this is a world of laws. So what I’m saying in this paragraph is that even actions I love, like cannabis smoking, must be prosecuted when discovered UNTIL we change the laws. If we are truly a world of laws, then police officers can NOT take it upon themselves to say, “I like this particular person I found committing a crime, a crime in which I disagree with the proscribed punishment, so I’m going to help him avoid prosecution, yep, I’m going to hide the fact that I saw him committing a crime. Because hey, he promised me he’s going to cut it out from now on.”)
So, regardless of society’s opinion about society’s current laws, the arrest and prosecution must begin immediately whenever a crime is discovered, and then after the trial has begun perhaps the judge might give a suspended-sentence (thus allowing the perpetrator to go unpunished) but I definitely think the arrest and prosecution must happen first, before any such “let him go without punishment” decision is made.
I do NOT believe that Eido Inoue should be judge and jury helping illegal actions go unpunished with this rationalization: “I assume THIS perpetrator probably has a good heart, since most of humanity is usually law-abiding most of the time right, so I’m going to help this criminal delete the evidence, WITHOUT even demanding they post a note on that same page admitting the previously published illegality occurred and promising to obey such laws in the future.”
So, I say to you Eido, Mr. “Prevent Prosecution of Perpetrators whom I think don’t deserve to punished as proscribed by the laws of Japan”: I believe the task, of determining WHICH law-breakers humanity is going to punish and which law-breakers humanity is going to not punish, should be left up to the judges and juries.
It is not rational for self-appointed deciders like Eido to choose whether the perpetrator should be allowed to avoid prosecution, and to come in and help the perp delete the evidence.
It is not even rational for humanity-appointed deciders like police officers to choose whether the perpetrator should be allowed to avoid prosecution.
Imagine a police officer telling a perp, “Psst, hey buddy, I noticed you’re committing an illegal act, but I assume you have a rational reason and the law is way to harsh about this illegal act, so here’s how to delete all the evidence before other police officers come and arrest you. First you set up a no-robots meta-tag to avoid the evidence being cached, then you have to go try to have Google and Internet Archive delete their cache of what you already published, and then you just tell everyone who calls that that sign no longer exists, and voila, my friend, no punishment at all for your past illegal actions.”
A police officer aiding-and-abetting the non-prosecution of a seen illegal act is absurd, and yet that is exactly what Eido Inoue has done repeatedly.
When humanity notices an illegal act in which the perpetrator has already admitted to having done the illegal act (for example, “Yes, I own the Hotel and yes I put up the sign”) humanity then demands that police officers do their job of arresting ALL perpetrators of ALL actions humanity has decided are ILLEGAL.
Eido, and some police officers, feel they can decide themselves to cut the laws and judges and juries out of the process completely, announcing, “Well, I visited the location of the illegal act, and I spoke with the perpetrator, but he’s a nice guy, I like him, and I feel that humanity’s laws proscribed punishments for his actions are too harsh, so I’ve decided to not do my job of bring this guy in for a trial. I have decided to protect this guy from those overly harsh laws, because this guy has promised me personally that he won’t commit the same illegal action ever again. Case Closed, suspended sentence, no punishment. If humanity disagrees with my decision, too bad, the evidence is all hidden now. Now it’s just humanity’s CLAIM that they saw this hotel owner publishing their illegal policy. Where is the evidence? All gone, I helped delete it all.”
So Eido, back to the question for you: “In addition to those illegal signs, what OTHER illegal acts do you think the perpetrators should NOT be prosecuted for?”
I think if you were to open up honestly and politely answer the question, we all would benefit.
Perhaps you will say something along the lines of, “Well, #1 – I think such entry-barring signs or policies do NOT physically hurt anybody’s body or property – so there really is no victim here, just hurt feelings on the part of foreign readers who read it, and then just a little extra searching required for those rejected foreigners to find a hotel that accepts them, and so really since there is no victim there is no perpetrator, so please stop using the word perpetrator. Yes, there was a crime, yes, this owner is the perpetrator, but still I don’t think we should actually call him a perpetrator of a crime. Let’s simply call him a person who made a mistake, a mistake which I kindly corrected. Point #2 is that yes I DO actually feel that if society’s punishment for a crime is too harsh, I DO feel humanity should simply help the perp (oops, let’s just call him “the person who committed a crime”) we should help such folks to avoid prosecution since the judges or juries might actually punish this guy the way the laws proscribe. All of this of course is dependent on them taking down the sign and promising to obey the hotel laws from now on. If, the hotel were to tell me, ‘Actually, we did prevent foreigners from renting available rooms in the past, and we are continuing to do it now, and we will continue to do it forever’ then in THAT rare case I would suddenly agree that the owner should be prosecuted. But as long as the guy promises to me, Eido Inoue, that he’s going to obey the hotel laws FROM NOW ON, that’s good enough for me, such promises of FUTURE law-abiding-ness mean that we should NOT prosecute these folks for their past illegal actions.”
I’m not trying to put words in your mouth Eido, I really think the above paragraph sums up your stance rationally.
So, in addition to allowing hotel-owners-who-promise-to-obey-the-law-from-now-on to avoid arrest and prosecution, what OTHER crimes do you think we should allow people to avoid prosecution for?
Serious question, hoping for a serious answer.
Sincerely –
JTW
That’s you told, havill. It was a long time on the telling, but it appears you are worse than Hitler.
This must be the case because JTW is the world’s greatest legal expert. We’re very lucky that he finds time in between trips to The Hague and New York to give us his exclusive and usually very expensive legal opinions.
@JTW: Dafuq? Methinks you’d do well to either/or/and the following:
1. Convert pointless wall of text posting on obscure blog comment section which was in itself a response to another comment on another blog INTO actual useful activism.
2. Get more socks and sandals old man sex.
Shit, some dude says to a bunch of tools with outdated policies decided by outdated ojisans who experienced or know someone who experienced some mendokusai at the hands of likely douchebag non-locals (not justifying, just saying that it happens – have you even seen the average clueless gaijin twerk sweat in Japan?):
“Hey, prolly not your intention but that sign reads hella racist, yo? Thought about changing the wording so your establishment doesn’t look like it’s run by a bunch of Asian rednecks?? People have to deal with lawsuits and since the 2020 Olympics are coming up… all eyes on Japan and plenty of $$$Cha-ching to be made… ya hear?”
PS – @JTW – TL;DR
PPS – Old shtick is old, old man.
PPPS – If you’re in my neck of the woods I know some skilled mental health professionals who readily welcome gaijin with OCD anger management issues…
@VK: Let me put my rebuttal in a form you may find easier to comprehend: Beep boop, boop boop beep, 1010010101001011.